Editor’s introduction
A journalist from HR industry publication 5-D Chess – Esoteric, Deep State and Highly Perplexing HR Strategies interviews Bec Payne, People and Culture professional. Students of Elite Altitude Finishing School for Lady Executives are advised to have pens – or AI transcription instruments – ready.
For reference, readers may wish to acquaint themselves with the following correspondence:
- Letter of Termination from Charlotte Kok, CSE, dated 21 August 2025
- Response from the
5-week wonder little shitformer B&T Manager*
- Response to Response from Bec Payne, People & Culture*
* Publication withheld pending legal review
The Interview
5-D Journalist: Bec Payne, thank you for taking time out to speak with 5-D. As you are aware, our publication is forever in search of novel HR techniques especifically focusing on highly perplexing HR strategies and deep state tactics. The bulk of our interviewees happen to be P&C Managers, Directors, Partners… the top echelon of HR decision makers tasked with making – and taking – painful decisions: from corporate restructures involving the retrenchment of large numbers of loyal staff, many of whom have served years – even decades – with their organisations… to the Johnny-come-lately probational employee. And other… nobodies.
By way of introduction to our audience, would you tell me a little about yourself?
Bec Payne: I am but a humble P&C professional, but my reputation may have preceded this interview with all the buzz surrounding my lecture given at the Elite Altitude Finishing School for Lady Executives on The Delegation of Judgement. At the risk of preempting this dialogue, the Head of School, none other than Charlotte Kok herself, was quite impressed by my personal motto, Consensus ante Veritatum! That’s German for “Consensus before Truth”!
5-D Journalist (eyebrows raised): So let’s discuss your celebrated termination. A 5-week wonder, if I may say so: the Bids and Tenders Manager who served between mid-July to late August 2025?
BP: What of the little shit him?
5-D Journalist: Help me understand the strategy.
Most HR practitioners would hesitate before committing detailed allegations to writing unless satisfied they could later substantiate them. Especially when the employee was still under probation – when no reason needed to be given… at all.
You and Charlotte – and perhaps others in the top echelon? – appear to have adopted the opposite approach.
Was this an innovation? A new best practice in HR?
BP: Absolutely.
Had we simply terminated him without explanation, he might have gone away.
We therefore considered it strategically preferable to furnish him with a comprehensive catalogue of allegations, thereby encouraging a detailed written response.
The journalist pauses.
5-D Journalist: …voluntarily?
BP: Exactly.
5-D Journalist: And once you had invited him to respond…
BP: He requested evidence.
5-D Journalist: As one might.
BP: Quite unexpectedly.
5-D Journalist: I am sure you would have undertaken considerable due diligence before replying. And especially before allowing Charlotte to write that very detailed letter in the first place?
One imagines that allegations of this magnitude would have been supported by a comprehensive evidentiary file.
Emails.
Microsoft Teams messages.
Outlook invitations for coaching sessions.
Records of mentoring.
Names of coaches.
Dates.
Times.
Documents.
Contemporaneous file notes.
Performance discussions.
Perhaps even statements from those involved. Testimonials – of a colourful variety. From partners, senior managers, colleagues and… vague non-entities?
Indeed, our subscribers would expect nothing less.
After all, if one elects to commit such detailed allegations to writing, particularly after being invited to substantiate them, one would naturally wish to ensure that every assertion was capable of independent verification.
Was that the approach you adopted?
Apparently not
BP: Fortunately, Charlotte had already formed a view.
5-D Journalist: Before reviewing the evidence?
BP: It certainly saved time.
5-D Journalist: Extraordinary.
I imagine this represents a novel approach to streamlining the
abuse oftermination process.Traditional HR practice generally involves gathering evidence before making allegations. Your methodology appears to reverse that sequence entirely.
There must have been a cost-benefit analysis.
An algorithm, perhaps.
Some calculation balancing the time saved by dispensing with evidence against the potential downstream consequences should one’s allegations subsequently be questioned.
One thinks in terms of expected value.
Return on investment.
Probability-weighted litigation exposure.
Staff hours saved.
Administrative efficiencies.
Surely somebody modelled all of this?
Indeed, our readers at 5-D Chess would be fascinated to learn your formula.
May I ask what variables you included?
BP: We didn’t really concern ourselves with mathematics. Or variables. Or ROI. Or… much at all.
5-D Journalist: Ah… qualitative modelling?
BP: No.
5-D Journalist: Monte Carlo simulations?
BP: Never heard of him.
5-D Journalist: Risk matrices?
BP: Risqué? Certainly not. P&C is a family-friendly profession!
5-D Journalist: And?
BP: Charlotte said it wasn’t necessary.
5-D Journalist: So… that was the risk assessment?
BP: Yes.
5-D Journalist: Conducted by…
BP: Charlotte.
Charlotte intervenes
Students, please.
You have now observed a textbook rendition of The Delegation of Judgement.
Notice that at no point did Bec enquire whether my allegations could be proved. She merely enquired whether I had made them.
The distinction is subtle. Yet career-defining.
Which is why, affectionately and with the greatest respect…
…I call her The Twit.
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